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01:33:36 PM Budget Overview: Department of Corrections
02:54:01 PM Budget Overview: Department of Revenue
03:30:54 PM Adjourn
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Dept. of Corrections
Dept. of Revenue
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 31, 2011                                                                                           
                         1:32 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:32:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:32 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bill Stoltze, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bill Thomas Jr., Co-Chair                                                                                        
Representative Anna Fairclough, Vice-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Mia Costello                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                      
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Joseph  Schmidt,  Commissioner, Department  of  Corrections;                                                                    
Sam    Edwards,   Deputy    Commissioner,   Department    of                                                                    
Corrections;   Leslie   Houston,   Director,   Division   of                                                                    
Administrative  Services, Department  of Corrections;  Bryan                                                                    
Butcher,   Commissioner,  Department   of  Revenue;   Ginger                                                                    
Blaisdell,   Director,  Administrative   Services  Division,                                                                    
Department of  Revenue; Jerry Burnett,  Deputy Commissioner,                                                                    
Department of Revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Bruce   Tangeman,   Deputy   Commissioner,   Tax   Division,                                                                    
Department of Revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Budget Overviews:                                                                                                               
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     Department of Revenue                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:33:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOSEPH  SCHMIDT,  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  CORRECTIONS                                                                    
(DOC),   introduced   department   staff.  He   provided   a                                                                    
PowerPoint  presentation titled  "Department of  Corrections                                                                    
House  Finance  Committee   Overview."  He  highlighted  the                                                                    
department's mission statement (slide 2):                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  Alaska  Department  of  Corrections  enhances  the                                                                    
     safety   of   our   communities.  We   provide   secure                                                                    
     confinement,  reformative programs,  and  a process  of                                                                    
     supervised community reintegration.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Schmidt  relayed   that  the   prior  mission                                                                    
statement   had   been   to   "incarcerate   and   supervise                                                                    
offenders." The  mission statement  had been  modified given                                                                    
that  the  department  wanted  to offer  a  wider  range  of                                                                    
services.  He  discussed  that the  system  had  experienced                                                                    
growth and DOC  wanted to provide other  services outside of                                                                    
secure confinement,  which was  expensive and would  lead to                                                                    
the construction  of additional prisons. He  opined that the                                                                    
crowded prison system  was a symptom and not  a sickness. He                                                                    
expounded that  recidivism was  the sickness  the department                                                                    
was working  to reduce.  The department  was able  to handle                                                                    
new  offenders;  however,  repeat  offenders  represented  a                                                                    
heavy burden.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt  discussed  the  department  goals  on                                                                    
slide 3.  Goals included the  protection of the  public, the                                                                    
reduction  of  recidivism,  a  delay of  the  need  for  new                                                                    
sentenced  prison beds,  and to  ensure  that an  offender's                                                                    
incarceration   was  productive.   He  expressed   that  the                                                                    
department should  work to make  itself smaller.  He relayed                                                                    
that  297  felons were  released  from  prison into  Alaskan                                                                    
communities per  month; therefore, it was  important to work                                                                    
with prisoners during their incarceration.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Schmidt   discussed   the  make-up   of   the                                                                    
department (slide 4):                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        · 1,500 Staff                                                                                                           
        · 12 Facilities in Alaska (with another under                                                                           
          construction)                                                                                                         
             o One of six states operating both pretrial &                                                                      
               sentenced facilities                                                                                             
        · Out of state contract of 1,000 beds in Hudson,                                                                        
          Colorado                                                                                                              
        · 13 probation field offices                                                                                            
        · 15 contract jails                                                                                                     
        · 789 community residential center beds                                                                                 
        · 290 electronic monitoring placements                                                                                  
        · 5,900 prisoners in facilities                                                                                         
        · 6,000 offenders on supervision                                                                                        
        · 38,000 bookings per year (22,000 individuals)                                                                         
        · 1 in 36 Alaskan adults are under our supervision                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt  added that four years  earlier DOC had                                                                    
1,050 out-of-state prisoners in  Arizona. The department had                                                                    
reorganized,  switched  to  a  Colorado  facility,  and  the                                                                    
number had dropped to 1,000.  He relayed that DOC planned to                                                                    
bring  all out-of-state  prisoners back  to Alaska  once the                                                                    
Goose Creek  Correctional Center  opened. He added  that DOC                                                                    
had   never   used    electronic   monitoring   to   address                                                                    
overcrowding, but  utilized the  method when a  prisoner was                                                                    
reentering the  community. He explained  that 95  percent of                                                                    
electronic monitoring  cases were successful and  that the 5                                                                    
percent  failure rate  did not  reflect the  perpetration of                                                                    
new crimes.  The program had  been very successful,  but DOC                                                                    
did  not want  to push  community programs  to the  point of                                                                    
failure.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAM    EDWARDS,   DEPUTY    COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT    OF                                                                    
CORRECTIONS,   highlighted  the   three  divisions   of  the                                                                    
department   (slides  5   through   7).   The  Division   of                                                                    
Administrative Services  included budget,  finance, internal                                                                    
audit,  procurement,  information technology,  research  and                                                                    
records, facilities maintenance,  and prison planning units.                                                                    
The  small  division  was directed  by  Leslie  Houston  and                                                                    
offered  critical functions.  The  Division of  Institutions                                                                    
was the largest and  included all in-state prisons, prisoner                                                                    
transportation,  classification  and furlough,  and  out-of-                                                                    
state  prisons.   The  division  was  directed   by  Garland                                                                    
Armstrong,  represented  the  largest  portion  of  the  DOC                                                                    
budget,   and  provided   the  24-hour   secure  confinement                                                                    
functions.  He  discussed  that building  additional  prison                                                                    
beds was  very expensive and time  consuming; therefore, DOC                                                                    
worked  hard  to  utilize  existing beds  and  to  keep  the                                                                    
recidivism rate down.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Edwards  relayed that  there  were  as many  supervised                                                                    
individuals through the Division  of Probation and Parole as                                                                    
there were in secure  institutions. Approximately 15 percent                                                                    
of  the  department  staff was  dedicated  to  dealing  with                                                                    
felons  out  in  the  communities.   He  stressed  that  the                                                                    
division staff were the first  line of defense. The division                                                                    
was directed  by Donna  White and  had 13  probation offices                                                                    
and 15 community jails statewide.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:44:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Edwards  continued to discuss the  Division of Probation                                                                    
and Parole  (slide 7).  Electronic monitoring  and Community                                                                    
Residential  Centers   (CRC)  had  been  placed   under  the                                                                    
division, given  that the primary  function of  the division                                                                    
was to supervise people in the community.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze asked about the  success rate of probation.                                                                    
He  believed   there  was  a   high  prevalence   of  parole                                                                    
violations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt replied  that  DOC  would provide  the                                                                    
committee with success statistics.  He detailed that DOC put                                                                    
approximately 200  people back in  jail on a  monthly basis;                                                                    
of the 200 people, approximately  100 were jailed due to new                                                                    
charges and 100 were jailed due to technical violations.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule queried  the  demographics related  to                                                                    
parole violations. He noted that  a prisoner was released at                                                                    
their place  of residence unless  they had not  gone through                                                                    
the  appropriate treatment  program  (e.g.  sex offender  or                                                                    
anger  management)  due  to the  lack  of  availability.  He                                                                    
wondered about  the prevalence  of violations  that occurred                                                                    
when prisoners were  released in a place that  was not their                                                                    
home.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt   responded  that  the  issue   was  a                                                                    
significant problem.  He discussed that  due to the  lack of                                                                    
treatment  programs  in  some rural  areas,  prisoners  from                                                                    
those areas  were required  to remain  in cities  until they                                                                    
went  through  treatment  (many times  individuals  were  on                                                                    
treatment program  waiting lists).  He believed  that moving                                                                    
the resource  out was  the right  thing. He  elaborated that                                                                    
the original  Goose Creek Correctional Center  plan had been                                                                    
downsized  in order  to  move resources  to  rural areas  as                                                                    
well. He discussed  that rural communities had  a low number                                                                    
of  active warrants  and  that urban  centers  had a  higher                                                                    
percentage  of   people  in  jail.   He  relayed   that  the                                                                    
department could provide additional detail at a later time.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:50:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara wondered  whether other  states offered                                                                    
transitional programs  for individuals released  from prison                                                                    
that  helped to  decrease the  recidivism rate.  He was  not                                                                    
surprised to  hear the  recidivism rate  was a  problem when                                                                    
individuals were  released into  a community where  they had                                                                    
no home or resources.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt  responded  that   Texas  had  done  a                                                                    
significant amount  of work in  the area; specifically  on a                                                                    
cost-effective   justice    model.   The    department   had                                                                    
implemented  the   Probation  Accountability   with  Certain                                                                    
Enforcement (PACE)  program modeled  after a  Hawaii program                                                                    
that helped  individuals while  they were  under supervision                                                                    
after release from prison. A  task-force had been working on                                                                    
a five-year  strategic reentry plan that  would be published                                                                    
in  February 2011.  He added  that  an individual's  success                                                                    
also depended on their own  desire to succeed. He emphasized                                                                    
the  importance  of  engaging communities  in  planning  for                                                                    
reentry.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  wondered whether there was  a plan that                                                                    
would be implemented.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt  responded   in  the  affirmative.  He                                                                    
furthered that the  plan would provide an  assessment of the                                                                    
current  issues  and  recommended strategies  that  included                                                                    
programs offered in other states.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  asked   about  the   availability  of                                                                    
treatment services for individuals  released from prison who                                                                    
had  substance abuse  problems. He  had heard  mixed reviews                                                                    
about programs that were offered in prisons.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:54:23 PM                                                                                                                    
Commissioner Schmidt  responded that the reentry  plan would                                                                    
focus on  after care,  follow up, and  wrap-around services.                                                                    
He  discussed that  assessments were  conducted in  pretrial                                                                    
facilities  to  educate  individuals on  available  services                                                                    
based on their needs. He noted  that DOC had a document that                                                                    
listed  all of  its  programs  and the  status  of each  and                                                                    
emphasized that  the department  welcomed any  criticism and                                                                    
ideas for improvement.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman wondered  why  the prison  employment                                                                    
program had been  discontinued. He asked what  it would take                                                                    
to  restart  the  program. He  stressed  the  importance  of                                                                    
teaching  vocational skills  to prisoners  for reentry  into                                                                    
society.  He  had  heard the  program  had  been  eliminated                                                                    
because it had  not made money; however, he  did not believe                                                                    
anything  in the  corrections sector  made money.  He opined                                                                    
that   inactivity  was   not  good   for   the  inmates   or                                                                    
correctional officers.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt agreed that  the discontinuation of the                                                                    
Prison Employment  Program (PEP)  was unfortunate.  When the                                                                    
program  had sunset  several years  earlier  there had  been                                                                    
intent  language stating  that the  program should  be self-                                                                    
sustaining. The  program had been  located in  Juneau, Eagle                                                                    
River, and Seward;  two of the three had  been losing money;                                                                    
however, the Juneau  laundry had made enough  to cover them.                                                                    
At a  later time  the Juneau laundry  segment was  no longer                                                                    
able  to sustain  all three  parts; therefore,  the decision                                                                    
had  been  made  to  discontinue  the  program.  The  Juneau                                                                    
laundry program  had received  money in  the budget  and was                                                                    
currently in operation again. He  had been supportive of the                                                                    
program and was interested in discussing how to reopen it.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman opined  that the  best way  to reduce                                                                    
recidivism was  to provide prisoners with  skill sets, which                                                                    
would allow them to earn a living upon their release.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze discussed  historical victims'  rights and                                                                    
criminal  administration  legislation.   He  wondered  about                                                                    
DOC's  success in  implementing  its responsibilities  under                                                                    
Article 1 of the Alaska statutes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt  responded   that  the  principals  in                                                                    
Article 1  were part  of the department's  mission statement                                                                    
and were  taken very seriously. He  believed victims' rights                                                                    
were core guiding principles and told a related story.                                                                          
Co-Chair Stoltze  believed that in many  cases the treatment                                                                    
of the  offender was not  relevant in respect to  the rights                                                                    
of  a victim  (e.g.  in  cases related  to  sexual abuse  or                                                                    
other).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt agreed. He  discussed the importance of                                                                    
assessment  related to  recidivism  reduction. He  explained                                                                    
that one-third of prisoners  would reoffend again regardless                                                                    
of treatment; another  third would not reoffend  and did not                                                                    
need  treatment.  The  remaining one-third  represented  the                                                                    
group  in the  middle that  would respond  to treatment.  He                                                                    
discussed  that   treatment  providers  did  not   cure  sex                                                                    
offenders, but  managed them and provided  protection to the                                                                    
public.  He noted  that  in addition  to  working to  reduce                                                                    
recidivism,  the department's  focus  on secure  confinement                                                                    
was also imperative.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  discussed  that  some  behavior  was  not                                                                    
correctable and that severe offenders  would "have to answer                                                                    
for it elsewhere." He  appreciated the commissioner's values                                                                    
towards  criminal   victims'  rights.  He  added   that  the                                                                    
department's  VINE  [Victim   Information  and  Notification                                                                    
Everyday]  program helped  to improve  information available                                                                    
to  victims'   families  and  other.  He   referred  to  the                                                                    
importance  of constitutional  rights  for  victims and  the                                                                    
accused.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt  agreed  and  added  that  funding  to                                                                    
reduce recidivism was always used  for that specific reason.                                                                    
He  emphasized that  mistakes or  re-offenses could  happen,                                                                    
but the department  was centrist in its focus  and would not                                                                    
betray its stated goal and purpose.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  discussed  that Texas  had  spent  a                                                                    
significant  amount of  money on  prevention and  protection                                                                    
related  to  recidivism.  He   wondered  whether  a  similar                                                                    
program would be applicable in Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt  responded   in  the  affirmative.  He                                                                    
discussed  that  it  was  challenging  to  compare  Alaska's                                                                    
system  with  the one  in  Texas  given  that Alaska  had  a                                                                    
smaller  number  of  prisoners  and  a  smaller  budget.  He                                                                    
explained  that the  cost-effective justice  model in  Texas                                                                    
had  substantially  reduced  costs. He  furthered  that  the                                                                    
department's  current  probation  program had  been  modeled                                                                    
after  a program  in Hawaii  and was  experiencing the  same                                                                    
results. He believed  the Texas program would  work as well;                                                                    
however,  there  were  differences   due  to  the  scale  of                                                                    
services and  other services that  Alaska would  utilize. He                                                                    
discussed   other  ancillary   costs  related   to  victims,                                                                    
medical, counseling, court, and other.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:08:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Fairclough  asked   whether  victims'   service                                                                    
agencies  had reviewed  the curriculum  in the  sex offender                                                                    
management program.  She cited  concern that a  sex offender                                                                    
could  learn  how to  "game  the  system." She  opined  that                                                                    
victims'  services could  provide  a  different and  helpful                                                                    
viewpoint related to the curriculum.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt  supported the  idea. He  believed that                                                                    
the department should work with  victims' agencies if it was                                                                    
not currently doing so.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough  discussed that the Alaska  Network on                                                                    
Domestic  Violence and  Sexual  Assault  and other  agencies                                                                    
could provide  suggestions related  to the  justice program.                                                                    
She  referred  to  concerns  that  efforts  to  rehabilitate                                                                    
offenders could be used as  a diversionary tactic to help an                                                                    
offender go unnoticed in the future.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Edwards  explained  that   CRCs  acted  as  pre-release                                                                    
centers  for  prisoners  to  help  transition  them  into  a                                                                    
community when  they were  without a place  to live,  a job,                                                                    
and  community  support.  He  relayed  that  the  department                                                                    
focused on  providing vocational  skills for  inmates, which                                                                    
was one of  the core tenets (along with  basic education) to                                                                    
preparing  a   person  for  success  upon   release  into  a                                                                    
community.  Substance  abuse   treatment  was  available  in                                                                    
almost every  DOC facility; some  facilities were  only able                                                                    
to  provide a  short-term version  of the  treatment program                                                                    
because  DOC was  largely a  pretrial  department. He  noted                                                                    
that the  department worked to  provide services  offered in                                                                    
larger  systems   to  reduce   recidivism  and   focused  on                                                                    
education,  vocational  skills, treatment,  jobs,  community                                                                    
support, and places to live.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Edwards  pointed to "Population Management  Strategy" on                                                                    
slides  9 and  10. The  strategy had  been implemented  four                                                                    
years earlier  and focused  on how to  prepare a  person for                                                                    
transition back  into the community.  He noted that  a large                                                                    
portion of  the success was  related to a  prisoner's safety                                                                    
during  their jail  time. The  department assessed  the risk                                                                    
level  for  each  prisoner  and   worked  to  house  similar                                                                    
prisoners together in order to  increase the safety level of                                                                    
each  individual;  there  were   three  custody  levels.  He                                                                    
addressed  that  electronic   monitoring  and  CRCs  allowed                                                                    
individuals  who had  demonstrated a  low risk  to establish                                                                    
housing, jobs, and  community support. Population management                                                                    
helped  to free  up beds  in  jails and  prisons, which  was                                                                    
critical due to a lack of  space. He relayed that the use of                                                                    
half-way houses had  increased by 15 percent  since 2008 and                                                                    
electronic  monitoring   had  increased  77   percent;  both                                                                    
strategies were  important in the transition  of individuals                                                                    
safely  back  into  communities.   He  elaborated  that  the                                                                    
department  was   near  its  goal  of   300  individuals  on                                                                    
electronic  monitoring  and  was   proud  of  the  program's                                                                    
success.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:17:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule wondered  whether electronic monitoring                                                                    
was an option available to all parts of the state.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Edwards   answered   that   traditionally   electronic                                                                    
monitoring  had  only  been   available  in  hub  locations;                                                                    
however,  as  technology  improved  it  was  expanding  into                                                                    
outlying areas.  He expounded that Barrow  was interested in                                                                    
the program  and that  it had  recently been  implemented in                                                                    
Sitka and  Juneau. He added  that as the  distance increased                                                                    
from cities so did the difficulty of home visits.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt  discussed "Program Strategy"  on slide                                                                    
11.  He discussed  the long-term  substance abuse  treatment                                                                    
program  and  the need  for  a  statewide treatment  program                                                                    
plan.  He  talked  about  the  placement  of  prisoners  and                                                                    
whether they were in appropriate  locations. He relayed that                                                                    
Alaska  was a  unified state  and the  department supervised                                                                    
both misdemeanants  and felons. The average  sentence length                                                                    
in the  system was 160  days; therefore, a  one-year program                                                                    
with  one-year waiting  list  did not  work  for the  prison                                                                    
population.  He explained  that  the  long-term program  had                                                                    
been converted into  two programs to provide  access to more                                                                    
prisoners and additional  three-month to four-month programs                                                                    
had been  created. The program  focused on  substance abuse,                                                                    
anger management,  criminal thinking,  parenting, education,                                                                    
and vocational  training. A  brochure outlining  the program                                                                    
would be available to committee members.                                                                                        
Commissioner Schmidt  addressed different types  of prisoner                                                                    
jobs such  as food  services, laundry,  general maintenance,                                                                    
lawn  care  and  landscaping,  custodial,  and  animal  care                                                                    
(slide 12).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  asked  whether the  program  strategy                                                                    
listed on slide 11  was specific to non-felons. Commissioner                                                                    
Schmidt  clarified   that  the   strategy  applied   to  all                                                                    
prisoners.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule wondered  why  sex offender  treatment                                                                    
had not been included in  the list on slide 11. Commissioner                                                                    
Schmidt responded that the list  conveyed how the department                                                                    
approached the programs  and was not a list  of the programs                                                                    
it  offered.  He  added  that  there  were  community  based                                                                    
programs in Bethel and Juneau.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt moved  on to discuss PACE  on slide 13.                                                                    
He  relayed  that the  program  was  modeled after  Hawaii's                                                                    
Opportunity  Probation with  Enforcement (HOPE)  program. He                                                                    
reiterated his earlier comments  that 200 prisoners were put                                                                    
back in  jail per  month; half of  the number  reflected new                                                                    
crimes. He furthered that half  of the crimes were committed                                                                    
while an individual was waiting  for a court process (e.g. a                                                                    
warrant to be served or  other) and that PACE targeted those                                                                    
individuals. Under  the program,  police had agreed  to pick                                                                    
up offenders  the day of  their offence and the  court would                                                                    
see them  within 24 to  48 hours. The program's  premise was                                                                    
that   certainty  of   getting   caught  deterred   negative                                                                    
behavior.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt relayed that  a pilot program had begun                                                                    
with  30 of  the department's  highest offenders  and within                                                                    
one  week 17  of  the  offenders were  in  jail for  various                                                                    
reasons.  The  prisoners  were sanctioned  and  released  in                                                                    
order to provide them with  an opportunity to keep any gains                                                                    
they  had made  (employment,  etc.). He  explained that  the                                                                    
brief jail time worked to  keep the probationers from making                                                                    
violations. The program  currently included approximately 70                                                                    
individuals  and  DOC  was  planning  to  start  a  domestic                                                                    
violence PACE  model in  Fairbanks in  the current  year. He                                                                    
stressed that the program  offered immediate enforcement and                                                                    
accountability.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt provided a  brief overview of the Goose                                                                    
Creek  Correctional  Center on  slides  14  through 16.  The                                                                    
facility was  expected to  be ready  for occupancy  in March                                                                    
2012 and  included five buildings, 435,000  square feet, 150                                                                    
acres, and 1,536 beds. The  facility would allow for out-of-                                                                    
state prisoners to  return to Alaska and would  employ up to                                                                    
347 individuals. He detailed that  the perimeter looked like                                                                    
DOC  maximum security  prisons and  had dual  12-foot fences                                                                    
with razor  ribbon, observation  posts, and  armed vehicles;                                                                    
however,  the  inside was  a  medium  security facility  and                                                                    
resembled a  "city within  a city."  A post  office, medical                                                                    
clinic, treatment  programs, and jobs were  all available to                                                                    
help  prisoners  with  a  routine.   He  stressed  that  the                                                                    
department did not want prisoners to adapt to prison.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Schmidt  discussed that the  department planned                                                                    
to place  approximately 30 minimum custody  prisoners in the                                                                    
facility to test the facilities  and warrantied systems. The                                                                    
facility  was expected  to be  ready for  full occupancy  by                                                                    
July 2012. He  believed that a slow ramp-up  was optimal for                                                                    
both  fiscal and  security reasons;  the  first full  budget                                                                    
request  would be  for FY  14. The  department had  used the                                                                    
medium  security Palmer  Correctional  Center  and the  high                                                                    
security  Spring Creek  facility  in Seward  to develop  the                                                                    
staffing  model and  operation costs  for the  facility. The                                                                    
Goose  Creek  facility  was  estimated  on  the  higher  end                                                                    
because  it  had an  intensive  medical  clinic and  special                                                                    
management unit to use for  several hundred prisoners in the                                                                    
event of  misbehavior or pretrial overflow.  He relayed that                                                                    
on  a per  inmate, per  day basis  the Palmer  facility cost                                                                    
approximately $68, Spring Creek cost  $104, and FY 14 budget                                                                    
projections for Goose Creek fell in the middle at $86.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:30:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neuman  asked what  the department  was doing                                                                    
to  train correctional  officers  throughout  the state  for                                                                    
work  at the  Goose Creek  Correctional Center.  He wondered                                                                    
whether there  were corrections  positions that  were filled                                                                    
with out-of-state residents.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt   responded  that  in  the   past  the                                                                    
department had conducted  out-of-state recruitment; however,                                                                    
currently  the recruitments  were  in-state  only. He  noted                                                                    
that there were typically  around 100 applicants in response                                                                    
to one position posting  in the Anchorage/Mat-Su/Eagle River                                                                    
area.  The  department had  conducted  a  survey of  current                                                                    
correctional  officers  throughout  the  state  and  67  had                                                                    
conveyed their interest  in working at the  new facility. He                                                                    
explained that  approximately one-third  of the  officers in                                                                    
the new facility would be  existing correctional officers; a                                                                    
slow ramp-up  period would provide  time to hire  and orient                                                                    
new officers and would ensure safety at the facility.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neuman queried what  the department was doing                                                                    
to  prepare and  train individuals  throughout the  state to                                                                    
work at the new facility.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Schmidt  replied   that  a  six-week  training                                                                    
academy had been  opened during the current year  at the old                                                                    
Palmer hospital  building. Currently two academies  had been                                                                    
trained in  the program.  He relayed that  there was  a good                                                                    
training  staff  onsite and  that  the  program may  need  a                                                                    
slight augmentation in the future  when academies were back-                                                                    
to-back. He added that people  from around the state came to                                                                    
Palmer  for   the  six-week  program.  He   noted  that  the                                                                    
probational  academy was  slightly different  and was  split                                                                    
up.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neuman  wanted to make sure  that people from                                                                    
around  the state  had an  opportunity  to work  at the  new                                                                    
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LESLIE   HOUSTON,  DIRECTOR,   DIVISION  OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                    
SERVICES, DEPARTMENT  OF CORRECTIONS,  explained that  in FY                                                                    
11  the department  had  been placed  under  three areas  of                                                                    
legislative  intent  language.  The  first  was  the  inmate                                                                    
healthcare  component, which  focused on  the identification                                                                    
of cost containment  measures in an effort  to control costs                                                                    
that had  continued to increase. The  department was looking                                                                    
at electronic medical records to  help in managed care areas                                                                    
and was  working with  the Department  of Health  and Social                                                                    
Services  and one  of its  contract partners,  Qualis Health                                                                    
Corporation.   The   contract   corporation   assessed   the                                                                    
appropriate levels  of care, which  would allow DOC  to move                                                                    
forward on a cost-efficient managed care process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Houston relayed  that the  second  area of  legislative                                                                    
intent was related  to programs. She discussed  that DOC had                                                                    
spent the  past year doing  data surveillance in all  of its                                                                    
institutions that offered the  programs. She opined that DOC                                                                    
would be able  to prove the outcomes of  its programs, which                                                                    
it  had  not been  able  to  do  in  past years.  The  third                                                                    
legislative intent  area was  under the  Alaska Correctional                                                                    
Officer Association contract, which  had been implemented in                                                                    
the  past  year.  She  noted   that  the  funding  had  been                                                                    
appropriated based on  a snapshot in time  because there had                                                                    
been a few areas in which  DOC had not been able to quantify                                                                    
(e.g.  education  incentives,  merit  increases,  geographic                                                                    
differential, etc.). She discussed  that overtime within the                                                                    
department was directly associated  with regular and medical                                                                    
transport.  She  opined  that getting  a  handle  on  inmate                                                                    
healthcare would help to bring overtime down.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Houston  relayed that  there  would  be a  4.6  percent                                                                    
funding  increase for  FY 12.  The increase  was related  to                                                                    
security  confinement in  the amounts  of  $3.6 million  for                                                                    
Goose  Creek and  $1.3 million  for community  jails equity.                                                                    
She elaborated  that two years  earlier the  legislature had                                                                    
tasked  DOC  with  a  complete   audit  and  review  of  all                                                                    
community  jails  to ensure  that  they  were all  on  equal                                                                    
ground. There  was an  increase of  $1.5 million  related to                                                                    
inmate medical funding to address  medical service fees; the                                                                    
area had been  the most difficult to contain  and related to                                                                    
medical   treatment  outside   of  prison   facilities.  The                                                                    
department had  recently renegotiated a contract  with North                                                                    
Star Community  Residential Center and was  seeking $900,000                                                                    
for CRCs  and increased beds related  to supervised release.                                                                    
She  detailed that  DOC  had  requested interagency  receipt                                                                    
authority related  to its reformative programs.  The request                                                                    
would help DOC receive funds  from the Alaska Marine Highway                                                                    
System  to  support the  laundry  service  program at  Lemon                                                                    
Creek Correctional Center in Juneau.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:37:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough  had  heard  that there  was  a  high                                                                    
Alaska Native  incarceration rate  and wondered  whether the                                                                    
state  had  worked  with   tribal  entities  on  restorative                                                                    
justice.  She understood  that Alaska  Natives received  100                                                                    
percent   reimbursement   through  federal   Indian   Health                                                                    
Services (IHS)  compared to Medicaid  funds provided  by the                                                                    
state.  She asked  whether the  state was  working with  the                                                                    
federal  government to  provide better  health care  options                                                                    
for qualified IHS participants in prison.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Houston replied in the  affirmative. She delineated that                                                                    
the  federal regulations  were  clear  on federal  financial                                                                    
participation   for   institutionalized   individuals.   She                                                                    
explained  that  inmates  were   cut-off  from  all  federal                                                                    
funding including,  Medicaid, Medicare,  veterans' benefits,                                                                    
IHS, etc.  She believed that  Alaska was one of  many states                                                                    
that   were  in   current  discussions   with  the   federal                                                                    
government to determine whether any changes could be made.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough encouraged  the department to continue                                                                    
the conversations  with the  federal government.  She opined                                                                    
that it  may be  helpful for  the administration  to examine                                                                    
the  relationship because  there were  mental health  issues                                                                    
that were overlapping  in multiple incarcerated populations.                                                                    
She  opined  that locating  services  could  help to  reduce                                                                    
recidivism.  She believed  that  it would  be beneficial  to                                                                    
have the ability to provide  all available mental health and                                                                    
other services to incarcerated individuals.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon asked whether  there was a significant                                                                    
difference between  the per bed  cost for a  diesel operated                                                                    
facility versus  those operated by natural  gas. Ms. Houston                                                                    
replied  that  she  would provide  the  information  at  the                                                                    
subcommittee level.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon understood  that  fuel represented  a                                                                    
large portion of an organization's overall cost structure.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas  thanked  the commissioner  and  department                                                                    
staff for addressing the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:41:48 PM                                                                                                                    
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^BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  BUTCHER, COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  REVENUE (DOR),                                                                    
introduced  department  staff   and  provided  a  PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation  titled "Alaska  Department  of Revenue  Budget                                                                    
Overview  House  Finance  Committee."  Commissioner  Butcher                                                                    
highlighted that  DOR's mission was to  collect, distribute,                                                                    
and invest  funds for public  purposes (slide 2).  He listed                                                                    
statutory  departmental  duties  including,  enforcement  of                                                                    
state  tax  laws, the  collection  and  investment of  state                                                                    
funds, and to register cattle  brands. The DOR core services                                                                    
were to:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        · Coordinate, develop and promote programs for                                                                          
         collection and investment of public funds                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        · Provide   controls   and   enforcement   for   the                                                                    
          collection,  investment and  payment of  funds for                                                                    
          the  Tax  Division, Treasury  Division,  Permanent                                                                    
          Fund   Dividend   Division,  and   Child   Support                                                                    
          Services Division                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        · Provide administrative support for the following                                                                      
          authorities,   boards  and   corporations:  Alaska                                                                    
          Retirement Management Board  (ARMB), Alaska Mental                                                                    
          Health  Trust Authority  (AMHTA),  Long Term  Care                                                                    
          Ombudsman  (LTCO),  Alaska   Municipal  Bond  Bank                                                                    
          Authority (AMBBA), Alaska  Natural Gas Development                                                                    
          Authority   (ANGDA),    Alaska   Housing   Finance                                                                    
          Corporation  (AHFC),  and  Alaska  Permanent  Fund                                                                    
          Corporation (APFC)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher highlighted  that the  DOR budget  was                                                                    
broken   into   six    major   components   including,   the                                                                    
Commissioner's  Office,  and  the  Administrative  Services,                                                                    
Tax,  Treasury, Permanent  Fund  Dividend  (PFD), and  Child                                                                    
Support Services Divisions (slide 3).  He added that the PFD                                                                    
Division was  responsible for  the distribution  of dividend                                                                    
checks  and  the  Child Support  Services  Division  was  in                                                                    
charge of  the collection and distribution  of child support                                                                    
payments.  He noted  that the  slide  also included  various                                                                    
corporations.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Butcher     highlighted    the    department                                                                    
organizational chart  on slide  4. The  commissioner oversaw                                                                    
the   deputy    commissioners,   division    director,   and                                                                    
corporations. Jerry  Burnett was the deputy  commissioner of                                                                    
the  Treasury  Division,  AMBBA,  PFD  Division,  and  Child                                                                    
Support  Services Division.  Bruce Tangeman  was the  deputy                                                                    
commissioner   of  the   Tax  Division   and  the   Criminal                                                                    
Investigations Unit.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher discussed the  DOR priority programs on                                                                    
slide 5:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     When dividing  the budget into the  mission statement's                                                                    
     three priority  programs, you will see  that investment                                                                    
     is the largest part of  the total budget at 50 percent;                                                                    
     distribution  and   collection  are   approximately  25                                                                    
     percent each.  The smallest slice of  the pie indicates                                                                    
     the work of the Long  Term Care Ombudsman that provides                                                                    
     safety for Alaskans.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher pointed  to a  pie chart,  which broke                                                                    
down agency functions  (left chart on slide  6); the "Safety                                                                    
for Alaskans"  function was under 1  percent and represented                                                                    
the long  term care  ombudsman. The pie  chart on  the right                                                                    
hand  side  of slide  6  showed  priority programs  by  fund                                                                    
group. Almost  two-thirds of  DOR funds  were in  the "Other                                                                    
Funds" category  such as, APFC receipts,  AHFC receipts, and                                                                    
other (non-general fund) state  funds. Federal funds made up                                                                    
approximately 25 percent of the  budget and unrestricted and                                                                    
designated general funds made up 13 percent.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:54:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough wondered  whether  there  had been  a                                                                    
downturn in federal funds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GINGER   BLAISDELL,    DIRECTOR,   ADMINISTRATIVE   SERVICES                                                                    
DIVISION, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE, replied that  there were a                                                                    
variety of federal  fund groups. She relayed  that there had                                                                    
been a slight  downturn that she would look  into and follow                                                                    
up  on.  She  noted   that  AHFC  occasionally  had  special                                                                    
projects,  but that  the child  support funds  tended to  be                                                                    
very stable.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher added  that the  department would  get                                                                    
back to  the committee  with more  detail. He  remarked that                                                                    
the budget  showed a large  uptick in federal funds  for the                                                                    
current year due to the  inclusion of $36 million in Section                                                                    
8 public  housing payments, which  had not been  included in                                                                    
past  years.  He  furthered  that there  was  a  $4  million                                                                    
reduction in federal funds for FY 12.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Fairclough   asked  for   an   apples-to-apples                                                                    
comparison.  She  believed  that  the absence  of  the  "Ted                                                                    
Stevens Effect" would  be a loss to Alaska and  wanted to be                                                                    
able to chart any losses that may occur.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  directed attention to  the "Challenges                                                                    
and  Successes" of  the department  (slide 7).  He discussed                                                                    
the category titled "Predicting  the Future," which included                                                                    
work  the  department did  to  determine  where and  how  to                                                                    
invest  funds. He  highlighted  the  department's fall  2010                                                                    
Revenue Source Book, which  listed historical information on                                                                    
oil revenue  sources and other  tax collections  in addition                                                                    
to future  predictions on  the price  of oil  and production                                                                    
levels. He  noted that each  source book had a  unique focus                                                                    
and that the current book had  a chapter on tax credits. The                                                                    
department had provided a book to each legislative office.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Costello asked  how  DOR estimated  pipeline                                                                    
throughput  and  whether  its   past  predictions  had  been                                                                    
accurate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  responded that  DOR contracted  with a                                                                    
number   of   petroleum   industry  experts   who   utilized                                                                    
information   provided  by   the  oil   and  gas   industry,                                                                    
calculations  on  the maturity  of  oil  fields, new  fields                                                                    
scheduled to come online. Predictions  were never exact, but                                                                    
they  had been  fairly close  over the  past five  years. He                                                                    
explained that  the department was  not able to  predict the                                                                    
stoppage  of  throughput  due   to  pipeline  shutdowns.  He                                                                    
detailed that  the state had lost  approximately $80 million                                                                    
due  to  a pump  station  leak  several weeks  earlier.  The                                                                    
department  could provide  members with  a detailed  view on                                                                    
its forecast methods at a later time.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  wondered how  DOR invested  funds for                                                                    
other  departments  and  what  was  done  with  any  spinoff                                                                    
revenue.  He  referred  to a  Department  of  Transportation                                                                    
bridge project  that had  been part of  a bond  package; the                                                                    
bonds had been sold and  he wondered whether DOR managed the                                                                    
money.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:59:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher replied  that due  to arbitrage  rules                                                                    
the department was limited on  the amount it could make once                                                                    
an  invested bond  had  been sold.  He  believed the  return                                                                    
would be minimal. He noted  that Jerry Burnett was available                                                                    
to provide additional detail.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  explained that  the committee  had been                                                                    
told  there  would be  a  delay  in  the Liberty  oil  field                                                                    
startup.  He wondered  about the  reason and  length of  the                                                                    
delay.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher   responded  that  he  did   not  have                                                                    
additional  detail   on  the  delay.  The   delay  had  been                                                                    
described as  a "breather" in  the press. He  explained that                                                                    
the forecast had been compiled  prior to the announcement by                                                                    
BP; therefore, the delay had  not been factored in. He would                                                                    
work to provide additional detail to the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara wondered whether BP  had put some of its                                                                    
large projects on  hold due to the financial  trouble it had                                                                    
experienced as a result of the  recent oil spill in the Gulf                                                                    
of Mexico.  Commissioner Butcher  did not want  to speculate                                                                    
on the issue.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  asked   whether  the  department                                                                    
tracked  and   compared  the   success  of   the  investment                                                                    
strategies used  for each of the  funds (e.g. Constitutional                                                                    
Budget Reserve (CBR), AMHTA, etc.).                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  answered that  he was  not aware  of a                                                                    
specific tracking  of all  of the funds.  He noted  that the                                                                    
strategies   were   different   from  the   Permanent   Fund                                                                    
Corporation,  which  invested  in long-term  strategies.  He                                                                    
noted that  entities such  as AHFC were  required to  have a                                                                    
significant amount  of liquidity  and invested  primarily in                                                                    
short-term strategies.  He would follow up  with comparisons                                                                    
between funds and their benchmarks.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  asked whether  DOR  investigated                                                                    
oil spills to determine if  a company had been negligent and                                                                    
whether it should compensate the  state for loss of revenue.                                                                    
He referenced  a recent spill  and a  BP spill on  the North                                                                    
Slope that had occurred in 2004.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher replied  in the  affirmative. The  Tax                                                                    
Division  was responsible  for determining  whether a  spill                                                                    
had occurred due  to a natural disaster  (e.g. an earthquake                                                                    
or other) or due to negligence.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg wondered  whether the research was                                                                    
public. Commissioner Butcher replied  that the question fell                                                                    
under the purview of the Department of Law.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:04:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough asked  for a  comparison between  oil                                                                    
production and price forecasts  versus actual production and                                                                    
price  for  the past  10  years.  She referenced  data  that                                                                    
showed  a negative  prediction over  the past  10 years  and                                                                    
thought it may have been related to price.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher believed  that predictions  would have                                                                    
shown  a tremendous  volatility in  price. He  would provide                                                                    
the committee with detail at a later time.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  opined that the  state was not  good at                                                                    
marketing  to  potential  oil producers.  He  discussed  the                                                                    
positive  aspects of  the royalty  relief  credit, which  he                                                                    
believed  was  under  the Department  of  Natural  Resources                                                                    
(DNR); he  thought the  credit should be  listed in  the DOR                                                                    
book as well. He explained that  taxes on an existing or new                                                                    
field would  be reduced  if they were  too burdensome  for a                                                                    
developer.  He  requested  that the  departments  look  into                                                                    
advertising the credit.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  agreed. He had advocated  for becoming                                                                    
more aggressive  on the issue  in recent  conversations with                                                                    
the DNR  commissioner. There was an  upcoming North American                                                                    
Society  of Petroleum  Explorers meeting  where DOR  and DNR                                                                    
would  focus   on  the  issue.   He  emphasized   that  both                                                                    
departments were  working to ensure  that the state  did not                                                                    
lose business due to a  lack of initiative and communication                                                                    
to companies.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  believed that  a lack  of focus  on the                                                                    
issue would be a missed opportunity.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  continued to discuss  the department's                                                                    
challenges and  successes (slide  8). He relayed  that staff                                                                    
recruitment  continued   to  be   a  challenge.   The  chief                                                                    
economist position had been empty  for a couple of years and                                                                    
the assistant  chief economist position  had been  empty for                                                                    
one year.  He explained that  the pay level did  not attract                                                                    
qualified  applicants  and DOR  was  working  on the  issue.                                                                    
Three out of  four master auditor positions  were filled and                                                                    
DOR was  optimistic it would  fill the last position  in the                                                                    
current  fiscal  year.  There  were  two  vacant  commercial                                                                    
analyst  positions,  but DOR  believed  it  would fill  them                                                                    
during the current fiscal year as well.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg asked  whether the  positions had                                                                    
been  exempted  from  the normal  pay  policy.  Commissioner                                                                    
Butcher replied  in the affirmative. The  master auditor and                                                                    
commercial analysts fell into the exempt category.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg   queried  whether  any   of  the                                                                    
positions had been filled.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher  responded  that  three  of  the  four                                                                    
master auditor positions had been  filled and the department                                                                    
was happy with their  work. The commercial analyst positions                                                                    
were  new  as  of  the  current  fiscal  year  and  DOR  was                                                                    
confident it would fill the positions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:11:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Butcher   continued   with   challenges   and                                                                    
successes (slide 8). He delineated  that there had been some                                                                    
information  technology   issues  in  the   department  wide                                                                    
network  infrastructure;  however, significant  improvements                                                                    
had  been made  in the  current fiscal  year. He  referenced                                                                    
that PFD  filing issues related  to "Click, Pick,  Give" had                                                                    
been resolved.  He explained that the  Integrated Tax System                                                                    
software was  in the review  process and would  help improve                                                                    
input and output  for the Tax Division.  The legislature had                                                                    
appropriated  $300,000 to  review the  system and  to ensure                                                                    
that sufficient funds would be allocated.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  pointed to slide 9  and discussed that                                                                    
DOR  had received  FY 11  funding for  a one-year  long term                                                                    
care ombudsman  investigator position due to  an increase of                                                                    
complaints to  the long term  care ombudsman. He  noted that                                                                    
unfortunately the  number of  complaints had  remained high;                                                                    
therefore,  DOR had  made  a request  to  make the  position                                                                    
permanent  in  FY  12.   The  Criminal  Investigations  Unit                                                                    
brought together the  criminal investigations positions from                                                                    
the  PFD  Division,  Child Support  Services,  and  the  Tax                                                                    
Division  and had  increased the  amount  each division  had                                                                    
brought  in. He  discussed  the department  worked with  the                                                                    
AMHTA on public safety issues  for the mentally ill and AHFC                                                                    
housing   and  weatherization   programs  that   focused  on                                                                    
increasing  residential energy  efficiency  and life  safety                                                                    
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  thanked DOR for  solidifying life                                                                    
safety functions in homes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher clarified that  there had been separate                                                                    
raters under the weatherization  program and the home energy                                                                    
rebate  programs; the  corporation  was  working to  combine                                                                    
them into one  position. He explained that the  much more of                                                                    
the  life safety  focus had  been  under the  weatherization                                                                    
program  because  the program  had  been  directed at  lower                                                                    
income households.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher pointed to oil  and gas issues on slide                                                                    
9. The DOR  and DNR commissioners headed  the Alaska Gasline                                                                    
Inducement Act  (AGIA) effort. He relayed  that negotiations                                                                    
were currently  underway following  the results of  the open                                                                    
season; TransCanada  had hoped to bring  information forward                                                                    
at  the beginning  of  the year;  however,  the process  had                                                                    
moved  more  slowly. The  department  hoped  to be  able  to                                                                    
provide an  update to the  committee in the near  future. He                                                                    
explained that  one of  the biggest  challenges for  the Tax                                                                    
Division  was  to the  transition  from  the Economic  Limit                                                                    
Factor  (ELF)  to the  Petroleum  Production  Tax (PPT)  and                                                                    
subsequently  to  the  Alaska's Clear  and  Equitable  Share                                                                    
(ACES). He  noted that  the division had  begun to  catch up                                                                    
with the  audit lag related  to the tax transitions  and was                                                                    
working  more smoothly  than it  had in  the past  couple of                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:16:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher briefly  discussed DOR  work conducted                                                                    
during legislative session (slide  10). He detailed that the                                                                    
prior session DOR had been  impacted by more than 275 pieces                                                                    
of legislation; 48 of the  bills and 17 resolutions had been                                                                    
passed.  He expounded  that staff  had  prepared 116  fiscal                                                                    
notes,  drafted  regulations,  and  had  worked  to  improve                                                                    
statutes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell discussed  the DOR  FY 11  budget summary  by                                                                    
division  (slide 11).  She relayed  that  the Child  Support                                                                    
Services  Division had  been impacted  by American  Recovery                                                                    
and   Reinvestment  Act   (ARRA)  funding;   there  was   an                                                                    
additional  increment  in  the   FY  12  budget  request  to                                                                    
reinstate some  of the federal funds.  The Treasury Division                                                                    
had  added  an investment  officer  to  replace an  external                                                                    
manager,   which  had   saved   approximately  $850,000   in                                                                    
management  fees for  a  $250,000  person. She  communicated                                                                    
that as  of the  prior year, CBR  management fees  were paid                                                                    
with general funds instead of CBR funds.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell  continued  to  discuss   the  FY  11  budget                                                                    
summary.   The  primary   funding  for   the  Administrative                                                                    
Services Division was related  to emergency computer support                                                                    
due  to some  system  failures. She  shared  that under  the                                                                    
commissioner's office $50,000 had  been appropriated for the                                                                    
AGIA  reimbursement  audit;  there   was  an  increment  for                                                                    
$125,000  in FY  12 because  the  audit had  been much  more                                                                    
intensive  than originally  anticipated. The  commissioner's                                                                    
office  had  also been  given  $1.5  million to  review  the                                                                    
fiscal analysis  of the gasline  terms, which  had currently                                                                    
not  been  spent.  There  had   been  an  appropriation  for                                                                    
$250,000  to  the  Tax Division  for  the  AGIA  Information                                                                    
Reporting System, which looked  at incoming AGIA reports and                                                                    
how  to  communicate the  information.  She  touched on  the                                                                    
petroleum commercial analyst  positions the department hoped                                                                    
to have filled in the near future.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Blaisdell  communicated that  the PFD Division  had been                                                                    
given  $100,000 for  Dot.Net system  training. The  software                                                                    
had been used  to develop the PFD system; funds  in the same                                                                    
amount  were included  in the  FY 12  budget request,  given                                                                    
success in  the current  fiscal year.  Approximately $75,000                                                                    
had been appropriated to pay  for increased chargeback fees,                                                                    
the replacement  of the central postage  machine, and other.                                                                    
She noted  that funds  had been  received for  the temporary                                                                    
long   term  care   ombudsman  investigator   position.  She                                                                    
concluded  the  summary  with detail  regarding  AMHTA.  She                                                                    
explained  that  the  corporation  submitted  its  operating                                                                    
budget, which  was backed out  in full and  requested again.                                                                    
She  noted   that  the  process  looked   slightly  unusual;                                                                    
however, it had been used for a number of years.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Costello believed  the $3  million increment                                                                    
for management fees seemed high  and asked for detail on the                                                                    
cost. Ms.  Blaisdell replied that  the FY 12  CBR management                                                                    
fee request  was for approximately  $2.5 million out  of the                                                                    
general fund.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Costello wondered why  the increment was $2.5                                                                    
million. She reiterated that the fee appeared high.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:21:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERRY BURNETT,  DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE,                                                                    
answered that the Treasury Division  managed $10 billion and                                                                    
approximately  $3.5 billion  of  the  amount was  externally                                                                    
managed.   He  communicated   that  the   $2.5  million   in                                                                    
management fees  was measured  in basis  points and  was not                                                                    
unreasonably large.  He added that the  figure seemed large;                                                                    
however,  there  was a  significant  amount  of money  under                                                                    
management. He  noted that the  cost was less than  the cost                                                                    
of  management for  the retirement  funds  or the  permanent                                                                    
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Costello asked  why the  appropriation would                                                                    
come from the general fund in the current year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell answered  that in  the prior  year there  had                                                                    
been  discussions in  the finance  subcommittees that  a CBR                                                                    
appropriation   required  a   three-quarter   vote  by   the                                                                    
legislature. She explained that  the legislature had decided                                                                    
to pay  for the investment fees  out of the general  fund in                                                                    
order  to  eliminate  the requirement.  She  furthered  that                                                                    
every time money  had been spent out of the  CBR a liability                                                                    
had been  created, which  required the  state to  re-pay the                                                                    
funds;  therefore, the  legislature decided  to use  general                                                                    
funds up front.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  discussed that  felons did  not receive                                                                    
PFDs and  that the money  should be given to  their children                                                                    
who were  owed child support.  The legislature had  passed a                                                                    
bill  that gave  DOR the  discretion to  take the  funds and                                                                    
provide  them  to  established  child  support  arrears.  He                                                                    
understood  that the  funds currently  went towards  funding                                                                    
important victims' services; however,  he did not understand                                                                    
why  the  funds  did  not  go  to  owed  child  support.  He                                                                    
discussed  current   legislation  that  would   mandate  the                                                                    
department  to  provide  the  funds  to  the  Child  Support                                                                    
Services  Division.   He  believed  that  children   were  a                                                                    
priority and asked  DOR to think about and follow  up on the                                                                    
issue. He did  not want funds to be taken  from victims, but                                                                    
he believed children should receive funds as well.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  responded that DOR was  looking at the                                                                    
issue and would follow up with the committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:27:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan asked whether  the CBR management fees                                                                    
were  approximately $2.5  million. He  wondered whether  the                                                                    
permanent fund management fees totaled $14.1 million.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell answered  the $14.1  million represented  the                                                                    
requested FY  12 increment. She explained  that the division                                                                    
had approximately $90 million  in investment management fees                                                                    
on the books.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan  surmised  that the  total  would  be                                                                    
slightly  over  $100  million if  the  current  request  was                                                                    
granted. Ms. Blaisdell replied in the affirmative.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  elaborated that  the $2.5  million was                                                                    
an  increment  as  well  and did  not  represent  the  total                                                                    
amount.  He  noted that  the  department  would provide  the                                                                    
total amount to the committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan  asked  for   a  description  of  the                                                                    
additional third-party  fiduciary work that was  included in                                                                    
the  $14.1  million  increment   shown  in  the  Legislative                                                                    
Finance fiscal analysis.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Butcher responded  that  the department  would                                                                    
follow up with the requested information.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough  believed  that the  fees  should  be                                                                    
looked  at as  a  percentage  of the  total  money that  was                                                                    
managed.  She   reminded  the   committee  that   there  the                                                                    
permanent fund (approximately $38  billion) and the CBR were                                                                    
both managed under many  different strategies. She explained                                                                    
that  different  fees  were   associated  with  the  various                                                                    
investment strategies and  that the costs were  in line with                                                                    
typical management fees.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:30:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Blaisdell   discussed   that   the   legislature   had                                                                    
appropriated a total  of $2.2 million to  the department for                                                                    
FY 11, which represented  approximately $850,000 in savings;                                                                    
the majority of the funds went  to one-time items. The FY 11                                                                    
fiscal  note   total  was  $7.9   million  in   addition  to                                                                    
approximately  $51 million  to AHFC  and the  Alaska Gasline                                                                    
Development  Corporation (AGDC).  She communicated  that the                                                                    
department's budget did not grow  substantially on an annual                                                                    
basis; however, it was heavily impacted by fiscal notes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell highlighted  the  department's  FY 12  budget                                                                    
request (slide  13). The department had  requested funds for                                                                    
CBR management fees, child  support services federal funding                                                                    
adjustments due to the end  of ARRA, server license fees for                                                                    
the  department  network  system,  $125,000  in  AGIA  audit                                                                    
funding, and creating a  Criminal Investigations Unit, which                                                                    
combined  investigators  from  the Child  Support  Services,                                                                    
Tax,  and PFD  divisions  to allow  for shared  information.                                                                    
There  was  a  $167,000  increment for  an  AMHTA  drug  and                                                                    
alcohol  position; the  position  was  a coordinated  effort                                                                    
between the  Mat-Su borough, Providence Health  Systems, and                                                                    
AMHTA (slide 14).  The budget also proposed  funding to make                                                                    
the  long term  care  ombudsman position  permanent and  for                                                                    
travel  costs (currently  most  of  the investigations  were                                                                    
conducted in the Anchorage area or by phone).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher  discussed that  AHFC was  requesting a                                                                    
small  amount of  receipts related  to veterans'  bond sales                                                                    
(slide 15). Federal  housing assistance payments represented                                                                    
Section 8  vouchers paid to landlords,  which had previously                                                                    
been a  pass-through. The  Legislative Finance  Division had                                                                    
suggested that  the funds  be included  in the  AHFC budget;                                                                    
therefore, funds  had been  backed out and  put back  in. He                                                                    
noted that federal  receipts were $4 million  less than they                                                                    
had been for FY  11. The AGDC plan for a  gasline was due on                                                                    
July 1  and $1.095 million  had been  included in the  FY 12                                                                    
budget  to  account  for staff  to  continue  any  potential                                                                    
research and work.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Blaisdell  addressed the  FY 12  budget request  for the                                                                    
APFC  on slide  16. The  corporation had  requested $115,000                                                                    
for  operation costs,  $319,000 for  salary management  plan                                                                    
funding,  and  additional  costs for  investment  management                                                                    
fees. She noted  that APFC would provide more  detail to the                                                                    
committee at a later time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Butcher read concluding remarks from slide 17:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        · The Department of Revenue is the state's largest                                                                      
          fiscal  manager.  We  pride ourselves  in  prudent                                                                    
          investment  practices for  a  variety of  programs                                                                    
          and needs.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        · Our customer service divisions of PFDD and CSSD                                                                       
          have notably improved  their business practices as                                                                    
          many   of   you   have   noticed   the   decreased                                                                    
          constituent concerns in these areas.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        · The Tax Division is one of the busiest areas of                                                                       
          the  department as  they work  closely with  every                                                                    
          taxpayer in Alaska and  are frequently involved in                                                                    
          tax   policy   decisions   contemplated   by   the                                                                    
          legislature.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        · Our corporations receive national recognition for                                                                     
          their  exemplary  program  management  and  fiscal                                                                    
          solvency.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas thanked  Commissioner Butcher for addressing                                                                    
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:37 PM.                                                                                           

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